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  .....and i'm out....

  by red so deep in

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  well, after a 4.5 hour long judicial meeting with my local elders i found out i'll be df'ed here in about a week and a half.

  i don't think it was so much my offense (smoking ciggs and weed) but my attitude.

  the elders were trying to draw out some repentance, but i was pretty straightforward about the politics and hypocrisy in the org, especially in the case of the neighboring congregations elder body, who seem to be on a witch hunt for me and my friends....when one of the elders asked my how i felt my actions affected jehovah, i brought out that example in the old testament where the boys were making fun of the bald priest or prophet, then he got pissed and called down evil on them *in the name of jehovah* and the she-bears devoured the poor kids.

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  well, before my parents knew about my judicial wrondoings, i had already told them i didn't want to be a part of the org. really, the only thing keeping me in were just 2 close friends. aside from them, i was ready to be done with it. and now that everything has happened judicially, my parents are still supportive. of course they wish things would've turned out differently, but they're still (especially my mom) behind me 100%, which i am really thankful for. they way that some of the elders in the other congregation have been dealing with the whole situation has angered both my parents and my dad has given them some pointed words and still intends to. but when nothing is being done about untrue slander that's going on, and when they badger my group of friends for dirt on me, that's not too cool.

  as far as the ganja goes, it's really not a big part of my life. just recreational, every once a while.... and when i do it i'm always very responsible about driving and whatnot. not saying that it's right.....
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  .....and i'm out....

  by red so deep in

  1. jw
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  well, after a 4.5 hour long judicial meeting with my local elders i found out i'll be df'ed here in about a week and a half.

  i don't think it was so much my offense (smoking ciggs and weed) but my attitude.

  the elders were trying to draw out some repentance, but i was pretty straightforward about the politics and hypocrisy in the org, especially in the case of the neighboring congregations elder body, who seem to be on a witch hunt for me and my friends....when one of the elders asked my how i felt my actions affected jehovah, i brought out that example in the old testament where the boys were making fun of the bald priest or prophet, then he got pissed and called down evil on them *in the name of jehovah* and the she-bears devoured the poor kids.

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  red so deep

  well, after a 4.5 hour long judicial meeting with my local elders i found out i'll be df'ed here in about a week and a half. i don't think it was so much my offense (smoking ciggs and weed) but my attitude. the elders were trying to draw out some repentance, but i was pretty straightforward about the politics and hypocrisy in the org, especially in the case of the neighboring congregations elder body, who seem to be on a witch hunt for me and my friends....when one of the elders asked my how i felt my actions affected jehovah, i brought out that example in the old testament where the boys were making fun of the bald priest or prophet, then he got pissed and called down evil on them *in the name of jehovah* and the she-bears devoured the poor kids. if he endorses the massacre of CHILDREN that weren't even given an opportunity to repent, why should he give a shit if i light up a joint? anyways, i'm happy with the decision and it will be interesting to see how my life changes.....
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  old bad "wordly" habits creeping back in

  by babygirl in

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  after being a jw for about 27 yrs and giving up old wordly habits...some still lurk at my door..how about you?

  which is your choice of badness, i mean the serious df kind...marijuana, smoking, premarital sex, etc...anything creeping back???

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  well, nothings really creeping back in, it's all new to me cause i've been raised a dub. but lately my sins are bad association!, smoking (tobacco and ganja) drinking once in a while, loose conduct (porneia), and well....not believing WT crap anymore... oh, and it seems as though i've been labeled as bad association now, cause some of my friends in the org are getting heat for associating with me.
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  crazy weekend....am i going to hell????

  by red so deep in

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  ok, so i'm not going to go into specifics but this weekend was a bit crazy and i did something i could easily get df'ed for...but the thing is, i don't really feel bad about it!

  being raised in the org, your always taught that "wrongdoing" is inevitably attached with unbearable guilt but i'm not really feeling that right now...i'm not sure if i'm just a bad immoral person or whats going on....

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  haha, treat her like a blow up doll....i may have gone a bit crazy this weekend, but i am a human being..
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  crazy weekend....am i going to hell????

  by red so deep in

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  ok, so i'm not going to go into specifics but this weekend was a bit crazy and i did something i could easily get df'ed for...but the thing is, i don't really feel bad about it!

  being raised in the org, your always taught that "wrongdoing" is inevitably attached with unbearable guilt but i'm not really feeling that right now...i'm not sure if i'm just a bad immoral person or whats going on....

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  ^^definately some interestingly worded advice!! put a smile on my face though...we talked about that stuff first and will be more careful in the future...
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  crazy weekend....am i going to hell????

  by red so deep in

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  ok, so i'm not going to go into specifics but this weekend was a bit crazy and i did something i could easily get df'ed for...but the thing is, i don't really feel bad about it!

  being raised in the org, your always taught that "wrongdoing" is inevitably attached with unbearable guilt but i'm not really feeling that right now...i'm not sure if i'm just a bad immoral person or whats going on....

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  um, i was pretty careful about everything but could've done better....she was on the pill but i didn't have a rubber. (go figure) geez, this thread is damn near turning into porno so i'll change the subject.

  i had posted here a while back about my struggle in the org. but yes, i am planning on going to a music production school and *gasp* not spending my time in the full time service! i've read crisis of conscience and other books and websites pertaining to evolution and the context that the bible is to be taken in, and my decision is pretty much made up. i've told my parents, including my elder father, and they're not ecstatic about it and i still do go to some meetings, but overall, they have been pretty accepting which i appreciate. i don't post here much either, but reading all the information and other peoples experiences here has really helped me as well. the hardest thing is gradually losing my friends in the org, which were pretty much all i had, but i've been trying to develop realationships with "worldly" folk here locally and that too has helped.

  so thanks again to all of you here!
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  crazy weekend....am i going to hell????

  by red so deep in

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  ok, so i'm not going to go into specifics but this weekend was a bit crazy and i did something i could easily get df'ed for...but the thing is, i don't really feel bad about it!

  being raised in the org, your always taught that "wrongdoing" is inevitably attached with unbearable guilt but i'm not really feeling that right now...i'm not sure if i'm just a bad immoral person or whats going on....

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  red so deep

  you could say that
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  Most JW prove satan told the truth

  by vitty in

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  satan said to jehovah "they only serve you, cos of what they can get out of you" or words to that effect.

  this is only my opinion but what do you think?.

  a few : i believe serve god cos they love him.. some: they want to see someone they love who has died again.

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  it's entertaining and sad at the same time when people commenting at the meetings always manage to bring out how all the hardships JW's face can all be attributed to satan. of course never willing to admit any fault of the organization but that truly, the devil is the root of all evil and deadly apostate thinking...
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  Anyone See The Grudge?

  by Nancy Drake in

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  i took my niece to see "the grudge" last night.

  i was holding on to her almost the entire time.

  i thought it was pretty creepy, but i haven't seen many scary movies to compare it to.

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  red so deep

  yeah it was kind of a typical haunted house story, but it had some great visuals, ala-the ring...which i think was a better movie.
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  crazy weekend....am i going to hell????

  by red so deep in

  1. jw
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  ok, so i'm not going to go into specifics but this weekend was a bit crazy and i did something i could easily get df'ed for...but the thing is, i don't really feel bad about it!

  being raised in the org, your always taught that "wrongdoing" is inevitably attached with unbearable guilt but i'm not really feeling that right now...i'm not sure if i'm just a bad immoral person or whats going on....

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  red so deep

  flower, your post was really helpful, that's exactly what i've been thinking myself but hearing you back it up meant a lot.

  and i know JW's don't believe in hell, i've been one for 17 years i was just kidding about that.

  but to be honest, i drank a little, smoked a little, and lost my V card. certainly not things that would take place at wholesome christian "get togethers."